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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;The Limits of Obedience&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Simon Lafrenière</title>
		<link>http://www.aikidojournal.com/blog/2009/07/23/the-limits-of-obedience/#comment-5435</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Lafrenière</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 03:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I simply want to mention you were good at saying what I wish I could have at a particular time and thank you very much for that as it brings more clarity and understanding to my life.  My evening was quite vivid as a concequence and I wish you all the best in you study of authentic martial arts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I simply want to mention you were good at saying what I wish I could have at a particular time and thank you very much for that as it brings more clarity and understanding to my life.  My evening was quite vivid as a concequence and I wish you all the best in you study of authentic martial arts.</p>
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		<title>By: nick lowry</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick lowry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tough stuff --sounds like you are handling it well-- after 27 years with my teacher i found myself in very similar waters as you describe--  in my case the stakes were huge and my departure was complicated by all the deep ties  that had to be put in jepordy, but all in all i find my self relieved-- the leaving was worth it and i learned for myself that it is never too late to get out of a bad deal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tough stuff &#8211;sounds like you are handling it well&#8211; after 27 years with my teacher i found myself in very similar waters as you describe&#8211;  in my case the stakes were huge and my departure was complicated by all the deep ties  that had to be put in jepordy, but all in all i find my self relieved&#8211; the leaving was worth it and i learned for myself that it is never too late to get out of a bad deal</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 02:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I studied jujutsu for three years, taking private lessons two to three times a week and classes twice a week, almost to the rank of ikkyu.  One evening, my sensei became very intimidating regarding religion.  It became apparent that teaching jujutsu was not his only agenda.  He wanted a convert to his denomination.  This had become clearer over time since he had given me "chick tracts" ridiculing various religions, including the one into which I was born.  Despite my acquired love for the art, it became clear that night that I could no longer continue training with him.  My suggestion is that if you believe that you are acquiring traits that are unethical, stop training and take your time finding another dojo or art.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I studied jujutsu for three years, taking private lessons two to three times a week and classes twice a week, almost to the rank of ikkyu.  One evening, my sensei became very intimidating regarding religion.  It became apparent that teaching jujutsu was not his only agenda.  He wanted a convert to his denomination.  This had become clearer over time since he had given me &#8220;chick tracts&#8221; ridiculing various religions, including the one into which I was born.  Despite my acquired love for the art, it became clear that night that I could no longer continue training with him.  My suggestion is that if you believe that you are acquiring traits that are unethical, stop training and take your time finding another dojo or art.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Augé</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Augé</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Mr. Gillies.

When the student is ready, the teacher will appear. Being ready means being unconditional. The state of being unconditional is different from passivity and stupidity. One should reflect on that.

Patrick Augé</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Mr. Gillies.</p>
<p>When the student is ready, the teacher will appear. Being ready means being unconditional. The state of being unconditional is different from passivity and stupidity. One should reflect on that.</p>
<p>Patrick Augé</p>
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		<title>By: Alister Gillies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alister Gillies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Student,

The Aikido community is a rich resource and you have had many responses. You are not alone. I hope you find something that will shed light on your situation - it is not an uncommon one. I would like to share the following thoughts with you:

Many people believe that their Aikido, character, spiritual development, life, etc, will improve by asociation with this or that teacher and become obsessed with getting something out of it. With maturity, however, it soon becomes apparent that what you put into your Aikido is more important. 

Having an idea of gaining something will only get in the way. Being obsessed with your own development, or vicariously basking in the reflected light of some charismatic teacher will only result in imitation at best, and a narrow arrogance at worst. 

Student/teacher relationships formed on this basis rarely develop beyond the infatuation stage, and with time fade away as disillusionment sets in. It seems to me that you are at this stage. In reality relationships within Aikido do not always conform to the high ideals espoused by the art or by individual teachers. The techniques may be divine, but they are practiced by human beings. 

 Interestingly, O Sensei avoided this pitfall by travelling to different groups and teachers, responding to different needs at diffent times, like a visiting grandfather. And herein is a clue: your needs are no longer the same. Accept this and move on!

While it is true that Shu Ha Ri is a natural developmental principle, it is one that can only be facilitated by a teacher that has undergone the process themselves. In reality such teachers are rare. In any event Shu Ha Ri is a never ending process, which led O Sensei to say: 

"The great path is really no path at all"

Beware of teachers who claim to have gone through this, and remember that there is no such thing as self conscious virtue.

I was once told by a very old Japanese teacher (83), very closely connected to O Sensei, that "each person must find their own way by purifying their own heart through practice". He was talking about not having any gaining idea, overcoming the desire to pin or throw, and losing physical strength to allow kokyu ryoku to naturally arise. He also added that this is not easy, and that a teacher cannot give you this - he was in his late seventies before he understood this.

The Aikido road is both broad and long, full of diversity and richness. No one teacher or style has a monopoly on Aikido. So shop around! Be comfortable with yourself and you will find your teacher - perhaps he/she is not so far away. I wish you luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Student,</p>
<p>The Aikido community is a rich resource and you have had many responses. You are not alone. I hope you find something that will shed light on your situation - it is not an uncommon one. I would like to share the following thoughts with you:</p>
<p>Many people believe that their Aikido, character, spiritual development, life, etc, will improve by asociation with this or that teacher and become obsessed with getting something out of it. With maturity, however, it soon becomes apparent that what you put into your Aikido is more important. </p>
<p>Having an idea of gaining something will only get in the way. Being obsessed with your own development, or vicariously basking in the reflected light of some charismatic teacher will only result in imitation at best, and a narrow arrogance at worst. </p>
<p>Student/teacher relationships formed on this basis rarely develop beyond the infatuation stage, and with time fade away as disillusionment sets in. It seems to me that you are at this stage. In reality relationships within Aikido do not always conform to the high ideals espoused by the art or by individual teachers. The techniques may be divine, but they are practiced by human beings. </p>
<p> Interestingly, O Sensei avoided this pitfall by travelling to different groups and teachers, responding to different needs at diffent times, like a visiting grandfather. And herein is a clue: your needs are no longer the same. Accept this and move on!</p>
<p>While it is true that Shu Ha Ri is a natural developmental principle, it is one that can only be facilitated by a teacher that has undergone the process themselves. In reality such teachers are rare. In any event Shu Ha Ri is a never ending process, which led O Sensei to say: </p>
<p>&#8220;The great path is really no path at all&#8221;</p>
<p>Beware of teachers who claim to have gone through this, and remember that there is no such thing as self conscious virtue.</p>
<p>I was once told by a very old Japanese teacher (83), very closely connected to O Sensei, that &#8220;each person must find their own way by purifying their own heart through practice&#8221;. He was talking about not having any gaining idea, overcoming the desire to pin or throw, and losing physical strength to allow kokyu ryoku to naturally arise. He also added that this is not easy, and that a teacher cannot give you this - he was in his late seventies before he understood this.</p>
<p>The Aikido road is both broad and long, full of diversity and richness. No one teacher or style has a monopoly on Aikido. So shop around! Be comfortable with yourself and you will find your teacher - perhaps he/she is not so far away. I wish you luck.</p>
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		<title>By: The Author</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Author</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Thanks.  While not everything said applies directly to my situation the spirit of what has been said has been immensely helpful.  I had a "wu" moment yesterday when I realized that this is indeed over, I had already taken the steps necessary to leave town when I wrote this (I am on the verge of completing something else there so the timing is ideal,) but the responses and perspectives which were so generously offered helped calm my spirit on the matter.  Yesterday I started to laugh about it.  My world had been so serious and full of judgment.  Now it is over and I feel light again.  I have no regrest about the past four years as it kicked my training up to new heights and has given me a lot of maturity, but now that it is over I am happy.  Some good learning, good habits, good friends and now I will have a blank page again.  I never have much faith in the internet's utility as it seems to generate more harm than good but in this case I think it has been immensely beneficial.  Every one of your contributions in some way helped me have a wonderful morning as I looked at the past four years as a totality and had a good laugh at the absurdity of it all.  So sincerest thanks to all of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Thanks.  While not everything said applies directly to my situation the spirit of what has been said has been immensely helpful.  I had a &#8220;wu&#8221; moment yesterday when I realized that this is indeed over, I had already taken the steps necessary to leave town when I wrote this (I am on the verge of completing something else there so the timing is ideal,) but the responses and perspectives which were so generously offered helped calm my spirit on the matter.  Yesterday I started to laugh about it.  My world had been so serious and full of judgment.  Now it is over and I feel light again.  I have no regrest about the past four years as it kicked my training up to new heights and has given me a lot of maturity, but now that it is over I am happy.  Some good learning, good habits, good friends and now I will have a blank page again.  I never have much faith in the internet&#8217;s utility as it seems to generate more harm than good but in this case I think it has been immensely beneficial.  Every one of your contributions in some way helped me have a wonderful morning as I looked at the past four years as a totality and had a good laugh at the absurdity of it all.  So sincerest thanks to all of you.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Augé</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Augé</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 08:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A teacher is a student who teaches in order to continue his study. (Mochizuki Minoru Sensei)

The question is: is our teacher here for us or is he here for himself?

How is his life style? Brand name articles, fancy cars, mindless hobbies and activities, whimsical spouses, secret personal life, etc.? Or did he prepare the proper environment and conditions to continue his study? How does he deal with daily life? Does he tell us what we want to hear or does he tell us what he thinks? Is it obvious that he has his students' best interest at heart and has been maintaining that attitude in spite of all the model students who have left him for whatever reason?

Having one's students' best interest at heart doesn't mean giving them what they want, it means giving them what they need, which is often contradictory.

Did he leave his own teacher or was he expelled and avoids the subject or has he maintained the relationship with his teacher and often talks about him without hiding the fact that there were disagreements at times?

Is our teacher a public person, does he make himself available to his students, will he make the time to listen? How are his senior students, the product of his teachings? Is it an unreachable clique or a group of compassionate students who close the gap between our teacher and us? How do they behave when the teacher is away?

Is our teacher a human being? Is he struggling with his weaknesses and does he admit them and work on improving himself?

Those are not the only questions to ask, but they may help in seeing more clearly through one's emotions.

In all relationships there are problems. Doubt is healthy when it leads to researching the truth in order to make a decision. Doubt is wrong when it becomes the excuse to avoid making a decision. Many students who left their teachers without fully understanding their actions and their consequences end up being treated the same way by their own students. It may go for another generation or so but will die for want of the spirit that ensures the continuation of the lineage. 

When the relationship is based on the right reasons, all difficulties become opportunities to strengthen that relationship. Otherwise the slightest problem becomes the excuse for running away from the relationship.

If you decide to leave your teacher over deep disagreement with him, then do it cleanly. Return your ranks, certificates, all that which you received from him. That will be the best expression of your disagreement. Look for another teacher, explain the situation and do not expect any special treatment since you will be considered as a high risk student and will have to establish your credibility, which may take time. That may help you if you later find out that you made a mistake and want to go back to your teacher. But be ready to start again from the bottom.

If your priority is to learn, be unconditional, accept anything, do not victimize yourself.

Patrick Augé</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A teacher is a student who teaches in order to continue his study. (Mochizuki Minoru Sensei)</p>
<p>The question is: is our teacher here for us or is he here for himself?</p>
<p>How is his life style? Brand name articles, fancy cars, mindless hobbies and activities, whimsical spouses, secret personal life, etc.? Or did he prepare the proper environment and conditions to continue his study? How does he deal with daily life? Does he tell us what we want to hear or does he tell us what he thinks? Is it obvious that he has his students&#8217; best interest at heart and has been maintaining that attitude in spite of all the model students who have left him for whatever reason?</p>
<p>Having one&#8217;s students&#8217; best interest at heart doesn&#8217;t mean giving them what they want, it means giving them what they need, which is often contradictory.</p>
<p>Did he leave his own teacher or was he expelled and avoids the subject or has he maintained the relationship with his teacher and often talks about him without hiding the fact that there were disagreements at times?</p>
<p>Is our teacher a public person, does he make himself available to his students, will he make the time to listen? How are his senior students, the product of his teachings? Is it an unreachable clique or a group of compassionate students who close the gap between our teacher and us? How do they behave when the teacher is away?</p>
<p>Is our teacher a human being? Is he struggling with his weaknesses and does he admit them and work on improving himself?</p>
<p>Those are not the only questions to ask, but they may help in seeing more clearly through one&#8217;s emotions.</p>
<p>In all relationships there are problems. Doubt is healthy when it leads to researching the truth in order to make a decision. Doubt is wrong when it becomes the excuse to avoid making a decision. Many students who left their teachers without fully understanding their actions and their consequences end up being treated the same way by their own students. It may go for another generation or so but will die for want of the spirit that ensures the continuation of the lineage. </p>
<p>When the relationship is based on the right reasons, all difficulties become opportunities to strengthen that relationship. Otherwise the slightest problem becomes the excuse for running away from the relationship.</p>
<p>If you decide to leave your teacher over deep disagreement with him, then do it cleanly. Return your ranks, certificates, all that which you received from him. That will be the best expression of your disagreement. Look for another teacher, explain the situation and do not expect any special treatment since you will be considered as a high risk student and will have to establish your credibility, which may take time. That may help you if you later find out that you made a mistake and want to go back to your teacher. But be ready to start again from the bottom.</p>
<p>If your priority is to learn, be unconditional, accept anything, do not victimize yourself.</p>
<p>Patrick Augé</p>
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		<title>By: Cecelia Ricciotti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cecelia Ricciotti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is a difference between obedience and loyalty.  Blind obedience can be dangerous.  One must think for oneself, of course, and do what one believes is right, with guidance from those one respects.  But loyalty, in my opinion, means being a friend, being honest, and doing what is best for the person (sensei) involved.  It means risking the wrath of that person who may not want to hear the truth.  It means understanding and forgiving that person for being human and accepting the good with the bad, without necessarily buying into the things you don't believe in. 

I believe a good teacher wants his/her students to maintain integrity.  That is the best way to honor that teacher and show loyalty.  Obedience - nah!

Wishing you well,
Cecelia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is a difference between obedience and loyalty.  Blind obedience can be dangerous.  One must think for oneself, of course, and do what one believes is right, with guidance from those one respects.  But loyalty, in my opinion, means being a friend, being honest, and doing what is best for the person (sensei) involved.  It means risking the wrath of that person who may not want to hear the truth.  It means understanding and forgiving that person for being human and accepting the good with the bad, without necessarily buying into the things you don&#8217;t believe in. </p>
<p>I believe a good teacher wants his/her students to maintain integrity.  That is the best way to honor that teacher and show loyalty.  Obedience - nah!</p>
<p>Wishing you well,<br />
Cecelia</p>
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		<title>By: Araki-Metcalfe Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Araki-Metcalfe Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do not worry
As you learn Aikido yuor knowledge and expertice will naturally grow.
Sometimes you outgrow your teacher and have no further need for their assistance.
Time to move on to bigger and better things awaiting the eager inquisative mind.
Look around and seek out someone who can assist you to move up onto a higher level.
The old saying of when you seek something it will appear, will now make sense to you.
Many of us have grown out of our past and present teachers over the years, and saught out ones that could take us even higher.
One day you may even get to the point where there is no one who can ecite, stimulate, or can offer you any more.  This is only natural if you continue to train with a true heart, question and evolve. 
 If you do something long enough and do it right of course you will become a master of what you do.
Many teacher fear you will outgrow them, but this is exactly what a good teacher wants.  They wish to pass on their knowledge and expertice to the student in a way they can understand and have them fly past them to greater heights.  Any teacher who does not do this should not be teaching.  No man is the sole source of knowledge and expertice, although many think otherwise.  If you sit at the feet of giants (great leaders and teachers of Aikido) you do not grow any taller.  Just because you trained under them does not necessarily make you a giant also.
Good luck
Paul in Japan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do not worry<br />
As you learn Aikido yuor knowledge and expertice will naturally grow.<br />
Sometimes you outgrow your teacher and have no further need for their assistance.<br />
Time to move on to bigger and better things awaiting the eager inquisative mind.<br />
Look around and seek out someone who can assist you to move up onto a higher level.<br />
The old saying of when you seek something it will appear, will now make sense to you.<br />
Many of us have grown out of our past and present teachers over the years, and saught out ones that could take us even higher.<br />
One day you may even get to the point where there is no one who can ecite, stimulate, or can offer you any more.  This is only natural if you continue to train with a true heart, question and evolve.<br />
 If you do something long enough and do it right of course you will become a master of what you do.<br />
Many teacher fear you will outgrow them, but this is exactly what a good teacher wants.  They wish to pass on their knowledge and expertice to the student in a way they can understand and have them fly past them to greater heights.  Any teacher who does not do this should not be teaching.  No man is the sole source of knowledge and expertice, although many think otherwise.  If you sit at the feet of giants (great leaders and teachers of Aikido) you do not grow any taller.  Just because you trained under them does not necessarily make you a giant also.<br />
Good luck<br />
Paul in Japan</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Krosky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Krosky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brett, I agree that in many cases, one being if love is not there for you in the Dojo, the best way is to simply not be there. At first this seems to be a bit ironic since one of the stated premises of Aikido is "Conflict Resolution". I felt how does that make the World better to just leave, what did we resolve?

However, since I left my Dojo a month ago, I have grown more Spiritually, physically (health), and expanded my business, and intimate relationships with many, all in less than a month than I did in the past few years. As the say goes, close one door, open another. 

For me the most important thing is to practice Aikido, the "way of Being" in my everyday life and I do. Be kind, caring and understanding of everyone's way, of everyone's path since all Paths’ lead to the same place which often, when Ego is involved, is so hard to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett, I agree that in many cases, one being if love is not there for you in the Dojo, the best way is to simply not be there. At first this seems to be a bit ironic since one of the stated premises of Aikido is &#8220;Conflict Resolution&#8221;. I felt how does that make the World better to just leave, what did we resolve?</p>
<p>However, since I left my Dojo a month ago, I have grown more Spiritually, physically (health), and expanded my business, and intimate relationships with many, all in less than a month than I did in the past few years. As the say goes, close one door, open another. </p>
<p>For me the most important thing is to practice Aikido, the &#8220;way of Being&#8221; in my everyday life and I do. Be kind, caring and understanding of everyone&#8217;s way, of everyone&#8217;s path since all Paths’ lead to the same place which often, when Ego is involved, is so hard to see.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can look at it from an Aikido perspective as well. If a teacher makes you feel uncomfortable or even at risk, that is itself a dangerous situation that should be treated as such. It's not going to be easy to neutralize that kind of situation through any kind of direct "negotiation" (irimi), such as talking the problem through with the teacher (you are not likely to change your teacher and he or she is probably not going to appreciate the attempt). The best way to deal with the threat is simply not to be there. Like leaving a disfunctional relationship or ignoring someone with road rage. I would call this a tenkan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can look at it from an Aikido perspective as well. If a teacher makes you feel uncomfortable or even at risk, that is itself a dangerous situation that should be treated as such. It&#8217;s not going to be easy to neutralize that kind of situation through any kind of direct &#8220;negotiation&#8221; (irimi), such as talking the problem through with the teacher (you are not likely to change your teacher and he or she is probably not going to appreciate the attempt). The best way to deal with the threat is simply not to be there. Like leaving a disfunctional relationship or ignoring someone with road rage. I would call this a tenkan.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.aikidojournal.com/blog/2009/07/23/the-limits-of-obedience/#comment-5367</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm impressed by the sincere advise that's been generously offered in the above posts. Your problem is not at all uncommon.  Few teachers have the luxury of teaching without requiring to charge for it, and there's nothing wrong with charging for teaching -- it's a necessity of life. Like other entrepreneurs, Aikido teachers hope their students will continue to support them. Some (many, most) senseis try to inculcate a feeling of loyalty in their students to themselves personally and to their style more generally -- in business this would be called marketing. You shouldn't fall for this inculcation unreflectively. If you purchase a car and in time you decide you need a different car (whether the car had some critical flaws or whatever), it would be childish to re-purchase the same vehicle out of brand loyalty. Teachers have egos and their feelings get hurt when students move on. Teachers need to harmonize with that and learn from it as part of their growth. The better the product, the higher the retention rate and vice versa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m impressed by the sincere advise that&#8217;s been generously offered in the above posts. Your problem is not at all uncommon.  Few teachers have the luxury of teaching without requiring to charge for it, and there&#8217;s nothing wrong with charging for teaching &#8212; it&#8217;s a necessity of life. Like other entrepreneurs, Aikido teachers hope their students will continue to support them. Some (many, most) senseis try to inculcate a feeling of loyalty in their students to themselves personally and to their style more generally &#8212; in business this would be called marketing. You shouldn&#8217;t fall for this inculcation unreflectively. If you purchase a car and in time you decide you need a different car (whether the car had some critical flaws or whatever), it would be childish to re-purchase the same vehicle out of brand loyalty. Teachers have egos and their feelings get hurt when students move on. Teachers need to harmonize with that and learn from it as part of their growth. The better the product, the higher the retention rate and vice versa.</p>
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